Easy Living in a Hard
War: Behind the Lines in Vietnam
Mike
Jacobi May 19, 2024
https://www.historynet.com/easy-living-in-a-hard-war-behind-the-lines-in-vietnam/
There were 5 support troops in base camps for
every soldier fighting in Vietnam. “In Long Binh the post boasted 81 basketball
courts, 64 volleyball courts, 12 swimming pools, 8 multipurpose courts, 8
softball fields, 6 tennis courts, 5 craft shops, 3 football fields, 3 weight
rooms, 3 libraries, 3 service clubs, 2 miniature golf courses, 2 handball-court
complexes, a running track, an archery range, a golf driving range, a skeet
range, a party area, and an amphitheater for movies and live shows.
By 1972, Long Binh Post even had a go-cart
track, complete with a starting stand, a public-address system, and a pit for
on-the-spot repairs.
Open mess clubs, which served food and alcohol
and often featured live entertainment, abounded throughout South Vietnam. At
its peak in 1969, Long Binh’s club system had 40 bars with a net worth of $1.2
million, including $270,000 in cash on hand. If soldiers didn’t like club life,
Long Binh’s retail stores stocked food and alcohol to host private parties at
the pools, barracks, or barbecue pits.
Construction of new recreational facilities on
Long Binh Post continued until the end of the war. As late as 1970, more than a
year into troop withdrawals from Vietnam, the U.S. Army was still planning to
build two 474-seat movie theaters, additional handball courts, two in-ground
swimming pools with bathhouses, and a recreational lake. The military scrapped
the more expensive construction projects in response to public outrage, but the
post’s amenities were still expanding right through the summer of 1971.
Long Binh and other posts had retail stores
that would have rivaled today’s big box outlets for their selection, if not
their size. Just one of Long Binh’s P.X.s was ringing up more than $800,000 in
monthly sales in late 1971, and it was not even the largest in Vietnam. These
stores offered a selection of products that, in pre-Walmart days, was unlike
anything most Americans had ever seen. As a reporter for a division newspaper
raved about the P.X. at Camp Radcliff in the Central Highlands of Vietnam: “There
are a lot of shopping centers—in fact, whole towns—back in the world where you
couldn’t find snuff, anchovies, baby oil, dice, flash bulbs, radios, and steak
sauce in the same store, or even in the same general area. But at Camp Radcliff
you can buy almost anything you want.”
Jerry Chandler
May 19
Damn, camp Evans was low rent!
Gary Bowman May
19
In December of '71 I was transferred to the
11th ACR at Phu Loi (near Saigon).
Totally different world down there.
All but stopped flying because of the influx of all of us. Just too many people for too few jobs. Ended up on permanent perimeter guard. A great use of my combat helicopter skills.
Reggie Kenner May
19
I got to the Replacement Depot in Long Binh,
settled in waiting for assignment and that night was on shit-burning detail The
next day we flew in a C123 I think, our duffle bags strewn across the floor and
used as seats and places to lay down. Seat belts? Fagattaboudit!
Landing at Camp Eagle, the only thing paved was
the runway. All dirt roads in camp. We had ten- or twenty-man tents as hooches.
The move to Camp Evans was no shock at all. A
bit smaller but same dirt roads all over.
After my ship crashed and we flew to Cu Chi or
Chu Lai to get replacement ships, I think I was amazed. The streets were paved,
there were concrete sidewalks and well-attended lawns everywhere. Air
conditioning and an officer who gave me a ration of crap as my cap had flown
out of the ship somewhere and I hadn't found a PX or anywhere to replace it in
such a huge facility.
When I read books by other pilots who were
stationed in II or III corps and read of their lives, even coming back to base
for lunch from CAs (".... went to the "O" club for a steak for
lunch...") I am amazed. It seems like were in the war and people down
there were in some kind of part-time job.
Jerry Chandler
Damn, camp Evans was low rent!
John McGarr May
20
Ignorance was bliss:
still is.
"When all is said and done, usually more
is said than done."
Bill Walker May
20
It still rankles me that those REMFs received
the same pay as those of us up north where there was no safe place.
Tim Pasquarelli May
20
Previously I have mentioned that as an Infantry
platoon leader and company commander I had very few experienced NCOs in the
field. A squad leader position that should have been occupied by a staff
sergeant E-6 with five or six years’ experience was
filled by an E-5 with just over one year’s experience and sometimes an E-4.
They did a stellar job under the circumstances.
The older, experienced NCOs were in the rear,
running the PXs and NCO clubs. While they had some obligation to “step up” the
poor leadership for this shortcoming rested at the very top. From Westmorland
on down to division and brigade level. There were so many other travesties
related to this ill-fated war. The troops performed admirably under the
circumstances… while the top political leadership across administrations, in
Congress and civilians in DoD and military leaders at top levels failed us. “Us”
being the American people and the average soldier on the battlefield.
Ben Conway
May 20
I totally understand Bill. Hell we didn’t get
decent food let alone fresh milk to drink.
Bill Walker May
20
A very good friend of mine from flight school
who flew LOHs out of Eagle during our tour, was quick to point out that few of
those from that area of the country were rarely exposed to Agent Orange.
My friend has had many surgeries and
chemotherapy as well as radiation treatments for his recurring cancers from
Agent Orange.
Steve (RS16)
May 20
“rankles” ???
Gary
Bowman May 20
Bill Walker May
20
Rankles mean it makes your ankles hot when you
get angry.
Lee Jerry
Stated well my friend.
Tim Pasquarelli May
20 #82106
Note it’s archaic… meaning a really, really old
guy would say such…
Dictionary
Definitions from Oxford Languages · Learn more rankle
verb.
3rd person present: rankles.
1. (of a comment, event, or fact) cause
annoyance or resentment that persists.
"the casual manner of his dismissal still rankles."
2. ARCHAIC
(of a wound or sore) continue to be painful,
fester.
"the wound is but skinned over and rankles
still at the bottom."
Bill Walker
May 20
Don’t make my ankles hot you RLO!
Steve (RS16)
May 20
I just thought the term was too minimal.
Gary Bowman May
20
Gets your cockles up, doesn't it? 😉
Bill Walker May
20
My what?
Gary Bowman May
20
You have a filthy mind, Mr. Walker! 😁
Gary Bowman May 20
My grandma, a born and bred Arkansas girl, used
to say, "That plum riles my cockles!", or "That really gets my
cockles up!" When something aggravated her. I would never argue with my grandma! Miss her a lot!
Usually used as a more enduring term,
"Warms the cockles of my heart."
There are also "silver bells and cockle shells" in song.
Steve (RS16)
Didn’t the freedom bird take us to the “land of
the big PX”?
Bill Walker
Describing one’s innermost feelings (from
French)
Barry Beard
I wouldn’t trade our experience for all the
driving ranges, handball courts, and clubs in the world.
Bill Walker
Nor would I Barry.
I don't think you develop a Band of Brothers by
playing sports and not risking your life on a daily basis for your comrades and
the men on the ground.
It is a unique and supreme experience, and I am
so proud of having been a part of it.
Bill